situated. >> i call to order the meeting of the sanitation and streets commission. today is monday october 20th, 2025 secretary fuller please call the roll. good morning. please respond with hear or present as only a user here. >> commissioner yourself is present. >> thomas harrison here vice chair harrison is present. kim hartwig shulman there.

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welcome to submit comments in writing via our email address. >> sars commission at sfo geof borg. or by mail 249 south van ness avenue suite 600 in san francisco, california 94103. and on behalf of the commission i'd like to extend our thanks to the staff of s.f. tv media services and building management in supporting this meeting. >> chair hardwick chairman thanks so i guess we'll move on to the agenda and are there any requests from the agenda to amend the past july meeting agenda that looks like a no so hearing no further request? >> mr. fuller do you have any

announcements? >> the only announcement i have is that on september 11th, 2025 the public works commission adopted an amendment to its contract approval delegation policy and included in the amendments they delegated the approval of workforce development grants to the director. >> so that commission will no longer see these at their meetings and this category of agreements had been the majority of operations related items approved by the public works commission and and then reported to this commission. so i will continue to have the report in the agenda for any items that do come up. but you'll notice that workforce development will now be approved solely by the director and i can also provide documentation of when those happen as well. the and that concludes my

announcements. >> all right. thank you, mr. fuller. >> please call the first item item one is general public comment which is four topics under the commission's mandate but not related to a specific item on today's agenda. >> members of the public who wish to make three minutes of general public comment in person may line up against the wall to the audience's right and if you're commenting from outside the chamber press the raise your hand button on the webinar or star three on your phone to be recognized and we do not have any commenters for general public comment. >> all right. so that concludes the general public comment please call the next item. >> item two is communications and the directors report and director carla shaw is here to present this is an informational item.

good morning commissioners. carla short public works director it is very nice to see you all today. >> there are a number of events and a few other topics i want to cover in my report to you this morning. commissioner parmenter you asked for an overview of our street teams operation. >> mayor laurie launched this new model in march as a key part of his strategy to get people living on the streets into shelter and services. the operation involves seven departments public works, police fire, the sheriff, public health, homelessness and supportive housing and emergency management. >> the multi-agency daily operation leads with services offering people living in encampments, shelter, medical care, mental health support, addiction treatment and more after services are offered specially trained public works crews step in to deep clean the areas and to bag and tag all eligible belongings left behind on a daily basis and when fully staffed up we

typically assigned 2 to 3 members from our bureau of street environmental services to each team and often more staff on tuesdays and thursdays when we have the preplanned encampment resolutions those operations are in which encampment dwellers get advance warning and intensive outreach at least three days before the cleanup. our team is overseen by brittney brandon, a real pro at this type of operation. >> she takes on this assignment certainly one of the toughest in the city with empathy, attention to detail and determination. >> well, we've been doing this type of work for years. the new model fuzes what had been a disparate set of nine operations with different areas of focus today the street team model has a coordinated approach under a unified command. the operation is made up of five tightly knit neighborhood based units that can focus on known hotspots and keep them from mushrooming plus one citywide unit. >> this approach combined with last year's supreme court

grants pass ruling that upheld laws criminalizing camping in public spaces and the city's continued efforts to ramp up shelter and services has resulted in a notable reduction of large encampments in san francisco. >> we still have more work to do but we believe we're moving in the right direction. as you probably know this past week we had a lot of boots on the ground to keep the hospitality zone areas around union square and south of market hotels and mosconi center looking good for dreamforce. a major tech gathering attended by an estimated 45,000 people. this is one of the biggest conferences of the year in san francisco and one of the most important as san francisco continues its post-pandemic rebound, it's imperative that visitors feel safe and welcome so we can continue to attract more conventions filled hotels and packed restaurants not only activate the city, they also generate tax revenue that helps

fund our government. >> keeping the streets clean is key. >> i want to extend kudos to the public works street cleaning and graffiti abatement crews for a job really well done. they were responsive and proactive. i also want to thank our partners with the nonprofit community benefit districts in the downtown and south of market neighborhoods for doing their part as well. >> san francisco delivered last monday the seasons first storm hit. >> it wasn't a big one thankfully but it gave us a chance to flex our storm response muscles with winter approaching our street cleaning and urban forestry teams cleared catch basins at 20 flooded intersections popped manhole covers back on at half a dozen locations and dealt with a handful of downed trees in addition to the crews on the ground. i also want to give public thanks to our radio room employees who fielded service requests and dispatched staff to the problem locations and to our security guard at the operations yard who helped

residents retrieve free sandbags when the rain comes down our employees shine. also last week we held our annual employee health fair at the operations yard. we had a great turnout from across the department. >> this year's theme was wellness is a vibe. >> as always we had health care providers and public works staff who worked at information booths to talk about health and wellness opportunities both for the body and the mind. we had a number of hands on activities including engardio dance workshops and a pushup challenge in which i did not participate. >> we also offered biometric evaluations where staff could be tested for diabetes and high blood pressure. the health fair is one of the most popular and important staff events of the year. organized by our community engagement, wellness and connect teams. our goal is simple we want people to go home from work as healthy or healthier than when they started their workday.

>> this event is truly geared towards empowering all of us with tools and information to live a healthy life. >> last week we also drew a close to our latin x hispanic heritage month. we had a fabulous staff led potluck celebrating the food and culture of latin america. no one left hungry and a good time was had by all. >> in fact it was a huge meal. it was delicious. the lunch capped off a month of events including a super fun and informative trivia contest where we tested our cultural and historical knowledge and a series of informative emails about latin america's most music, dance and culture. >> i'd like to give a huge shout out to the latin x hispanic heritage month planning committee for organizing these amazing events. this was just one of many heritage months we celebrate at public works by sharing our cultures and experiences with our colleagues and learning from one another. we build stronger bonds that build our community

and collective voice making us a better department. d.o.c. training exercise so when disaster strikes, public works will be at the forefront of the city's response. >> and on october eighth we activate it our department operations center and participated in a training exercise to help us prepare for a real life incident. the scenario was a massive, massive 7.8 magnitude earthquake on the san andreas fault causing widespread damage across san francisco. >> our primary jobs in the citywide response include clearing roads, inspecting structures and conducting search and rescue operations as well as acquiring resources to shore up damaged infrastructure and deploying staff to the field to do all that work. our collaborative exercise involved 63 public works offers from across all divisions. the more we train the better prepared we are to serve the people of san francisco when they need us most. >> most.

i like in this too building our muscle memory. you know when you ride a bike if you haven't written for years you get on a bike you still ride it. you don't just tip over. >> and so doing these training exercises really help us build that muscle memory for when it comes to responding to an incident. so a big shout out to everyone who participated and deep appreciation to nick whole sample our resilience and disaster planning manager and logan hain from our directors office for running point on the exercise. >> i'm also very pleased to share with you that a group of public works employees received very special recognition for their ongoing work on the guerrero street medium at the weekly board of supervisors meeting on october seventh. board president rafael mandoline gave a commendation to public works staff and community members who maintain and beautify the guerrero street median. the dedicated public works employees who were honored at the ceremony were robert mckinney rashida saucier, tasha

mixon, george lee and eva cheng. this is a truly well-deserved recognition. the amount of work that goes into keeping this median looking great from planning the events to performing outreach to the community to supplying equipment to pulling weeds and planting is massive and it takes a real group effort. >> it was great to see the team get that public recognition. >> last month we also launched a new undercover sting operation aimed at catching culprits illegally dumping household and business trash in chinatown. a persistent problem that blights this historic neighborhood ranging from our outreach and enforcement team and emma wu. our chinese language public information officer were on the hunt for bad behavior and it did not take long. the undercover team caught multiple offenders on camera and promptly issued citations to the businesses where they work. >> fines can run as high as $1,000 for repeat or poor clearly egregious offenses. >> more undercover operations

are in the works not just in chinatown but in other neighborhoods with known hotspots. >> the enforcement action isn't new but going undercover gives us another tool to combat illegal dumping. the one team also dons protective gloves and sifts through trash left on the sidewalk and in alleyways looking for documentation to identify the source of the illegal dumping. >> some residents and shopkeepers also share surveillance footage of people illegally illegally dumping that we can use to take enforcement action. i think most of you know that illegal dumping is not only a big problem but a big priority for us as a department and as a city. that's why we're always looking for new ways to take action including by going undercover. >> more to come. >> and earlier this month scores of volunteers and public works crews joined forces to clean and green district for four our love our city neighborhood beautification day work day. the hard working group was out in full force in the sunset

parkside and other district four neighborhoods sprucing up the community. >> at the october fourth event we also honored washington high school student aiden lu as our first nba all-star for volunteering at his sixth work day this year. >> since we hosted the nba all-star earlier this year, we thought we would create nba all-stars. >> next month we will be beautifying north beach, russian hill and other district three neighborhoods. >> kickoff for the november 8th event is at 9 a.m. at francisco middle school at 361 francisco street and we would love to see you there if you could join us. >> with that i will wrap up my director's report. >> great. well, thank you, director sherry. does anyone have any questions or comments? well, congratulations again to the staff that won the award. especially for guerrero media

and film and. so hearing no further questions, mr. fuller. and please open public comment . >> members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item two the communications and directors report you may line up against the wall to the audience is right and if you're commenting from outside the chamber press the raise your hand button in the webinar or start three on your phone to be recognized. >> and we do not have any public commenters for the directors report. >> all right, secretary fuller please call the next item. item three is the draft minutes from the july 21st, 2025 meeting of this commission and approval of the minutes is an action item before any motion is made.

i'm happy to take any questions or corrections to the minutes. >> does anyone have any corrections or questions? no. all right. do i hear a motion to adopt the minutes motion to adopt? and do i hear a second? second. all right. given the motion. >> okay. do we need to vote on this or. yes, we'll need to take public comment and then vote. >> okay. sorry. i think given the motion we will now hear public comment and trading members members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on the motion to adopt the minutes may line up against the wall to the audience's right. and if you're commenting from outside the chamber once again press the raise your hand button in the webinar or start three on your phone to be recognized. >> and we do not have any public commenters on this item.

>> all right. so all in favor of adopting the minutes say yes yes. >> yes, yes, yes. >> all right. this motion passes. secretary fuller will post the adopted minutes documented from july 21st to the commission's website. please call the next item. >> item four is the do it division wide functions performance report and deputy director of operation or oh deputy director of operations to jayda durden is here to present and will be joined by a number of subject matter experts on her team and the commission request that individual presenters introduce themselves and provide their titles before they start speaking. >> and this is an informational item. >> good morning commissioners deputy director carla short

hello my name is to jada durden. >> i'm deputy director for operations and i'm here to start off this presentation in all okay so today's presentation highlights the work of the groups to support the entire operations. so we have health and safety tool room operation supplies workforce development, community programs, outreach and enforcement and we will also have a small presentation for fleet. all right. let me turn next page. >> so here are our numbers for 2425 so street cleaning clothes 161,650 service orders this year >> tons of debris, 20

5348. we remove 38,482 public graffiti service orders. we pared a 73,000 651ft2 of sidewalk throughout the city. we planted 17 hundred and 87 trees throughout the city and we pave 1,549,978ft2 of streets paved with asphalt. we also repaired 9440 potholes throughout the city and we proved to maintain 5453 trees throughout the city. >> so we were pretty busy. i'm proud of my team and the work that we do and i hope that you are too.

>> and next up will be health and safety. good morning commissioners. my name is mary anna tufton and on the safety officer for public works i'm going to present health and safety statistics for motor vehicle incident rates 400 workers and injury illnesses rates we do trending analysis to identify the areas where we can do more training and provide more improvement in our corrective actions. as you can see the training started pretty high in 1990 and was significantly decreasing until 2025. injuries illustrate we're a bit

on the rise but it's mostly due to soft tissue injuries. >> our goal is to reduce this measures by 20% in 2025 2026 worker's compensation report out is we started off in 2010 you want a performance million dollars paid out for motor vehicle injuries and right now the claims are pretty similar to 2324 a little bit on the rise that we're planning to ensure that take measures to track reporting with supervisors and division managers to identify training opportunities we currently implement that return to work program where employees must be retrained prior to returning to work to prevent similar accidents and injuries going

forward this year our health and safety statistics for fiscal year 2021 through 2020 fourth when you're 25 as you can see from 2021 to 2024 we have the increase in preventable motor vehicle incidents and a decrease in non preventable motor vehicle incidents. however, the total trade is going down to 112 423 we prevent motor vehicles incident incident that could have been avoided if the employees had taken reasonable precautions. such an awareness of the surrounding and concentration on job attend non preventable

motor vehicle incidents are occurring despite the employee's best efforts to avoid them that are attributed to other motor vehicles and or to the pedestrians. >> we'll look at the statistics to understand trends regarding types of motor vehicle incidents, locations, skill level of driver and daytime of the week. >> our highlights is to institute mandatory traffic control refresher training for all employees involved in the motor vehicle accidents we already have started doing so increased number of division based trainers to expand driver training for new hires. we have already started doing so as well improve the process of an mba incident with

targeted training and updated driving training similar that's in the planning. it's going to be done before the end of the year and centralize any job specific training courses. >> that concludes my presentations. >> if you have any questions but i just ask one quick question which does give a couple examples of the sort of both maybe the workforce injuries like what i mean obviously there's a wide spectrum but just apples and then like the vehicle side i would love to understand is it you know somebody bumped into somebody while parking versus like what what are those for example common set of examples preventable versus non preventable. >> just those a little more detail preventable more vehicles would include the employees being parked on the side of the road and on

and exiting in order to take care of the street and some of the cars would drive by so there would be more should be more aware of the surrounding wouldn't open the door when locked open the door, look around all making sure that they are driving according to the traffic controls and unpreventable would be somebody cutting off the employee's. one of the examples was in chinatown where we had on the right hand side we had a street cleaner car on the left hand side we have a park vehicle and somebody tried to squeeze in between. >> they got stuck in between. >> so yeah non prevent that's non preventable on any more examples of that's helpful what about just in like general terms of workforce injuries is

this that are preventable i'd love to understand just okay sure. >> workplace injuries is mostly due to so body tissues and we were doing stretch exercises before the work and we do them all in the mornings before all shifts have started. we also doing observations of the jobs different types of jobs that people are actually doing on the streets. i have done a few of them observing for example or urban forestry planning how they're conducting, how they're conducting the work, how they're bending, how they are twisting and turning or how i issue the reports to the management and provide a solutions the update their job description job has an analysis to implement those changes and provide the training to

ensure that everybody is aware of the new implementations. >> all right. that's super helpful. thank you. any more questions? how often are people retrained? so you've been in the job for let's say a couple of years. you obviously got training at the beginning. how often are they like updated like hey remember to wear these safety things or to lift with your knees and out with your back, you know, stuff like that. >> so we're doing safety trainings in retraining on a monthly basis to all the supervisors covering various areas such as traffic control, all bending and twisting and turning in traffic control like safe start for personal protective equipment and there's a whole list of 24 different types of trainings, all 11 of which are required by cal osha and the supervisors do tailgates with the employees

tailgates which usually last 15 to 20 minutes and they do it twice a month every ten days as required by regulations. our safety training is once a month which is required by regulations but we actually above and beyond because it's quarterly cal or request quarterly training we do it monthly. >> okay, great. thank you. okay. anyone else? thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> it's all in operation supplies. >> good morning. my name is bill bonnie and i provides administrative support to the operations division. the tool room continues to serve as essential resource for all operation patrols which include street repair environmental services and urban forestry. our responsibilities include

tracking, issuing and restocking all tools, materials and safety and supplies used across the operation yard. we make sure every crew has what they need to perform safely and efficiently while maintaining accurate inventory and financial records. this slide highlights our main functions inventory management issuing and receiving tools restocking supplies, emergency preparedness and record keeping. together these functions ensure operational readiness, accountability and safety across all divisions and operations. >> okay so now that we've covered the tool rooms daily functions, let's look at how these translate into financial activities. >> specifically our materials and supplies spending. >> okay. so this chart shows total materials and supplies spending during the last three fiscal years.

the main change this year is how we source our data. >> previously our reports relied on determined data which shows purchase orders and encumbrances that reflect what is ordered but not necessary what is paid. this year we shifted to using the budget versus actuals report from the peoplesoft reports and analytics dashboard which capture posted and verified expenditures recorded in the city's general ledger. these dashboards are part of the city's official reporting environment for financial data . >> and this approach provides a more accurate, transparent picture of total room and operation spending and aligns with the controllers accounting policies and procedures which require departments to base financial reporting on actuals from the general ledger. >> okay so next we'll look at how those expenditures are distributed across our different funding sources.

okay. so this slide shows how spending is distributed by funds source to make this relatable. let's use one example item safety gloves which can be purchased under multiple funds but each for different operational purpose. >> so for our general funds safety gloves use our buy facilities and your trues for typical operations and maintenance work. gas tax funds these gloves could be used by street repair crews handling asphalt, concrete and roadway materials . >> the tree maintenance fund is used by urban forestry for tree pruning or planting and the solid waste funds is used by the environmental services team for litter removal and debris cleanups. so this example shows how the same type of materials can serve multiple field operations . while each purchase remains charged to the correct funding source based on its specific

use. >> so now that we've reviewed the funding structure, let's take a closer look at how these funds are actually being used. this slide groups our expenditures into four main categories building and construction tool and equipment health and safety and operations and office. the chart of accounts is the city's official coding structure that ensures each transaction is tracked by fund department account and project. the largest categories is health and safety and operations and office which include ppe, personal protective equipment, janitorial and facility materials. >> tools and equipment spending has remained consistent showing a balanced replacement cycle rather than an expansion. >> this structure leans toward reporting with the cities

fiscal framework and supports consistent year over year comparisons and finally let's wrap up with how these updates straighten accuracy and aligned with the city accounting policies. >> just basically we just shifted how we pull our data. we stopped using a procurement report and started using a budget versus actuals report from the general ledger. and this update enhances accuracy, transparency and forecasting. ensuring tool room operations continue to support all bureaus efficiently and within budget authority. any questions? thank you. just one question i guess is i think about you've obviously got lots of different equipment and lots of different things you're trying to balance sort of storage of versus needing to order on the fly.

probably i don't totally understand pricing of bulk order versus lots of small items. you got items that probably expire. how does i guess that sort of play a role in how you're managing what you're ordering when your ordering, what you're storing, how you're dealing with expiring items, etc.? >> and this is part of the forecasting where we are working with the finance team to see how often we are using the supplies and that will kind of give us a clue on how often we should be ordering. >> yeah, that makes sense. >> can i just add one little? so one of the things that we can do at the beginning of the fiscal year is set up a term contract with certain vendors which basically says but we have to give them a general sense we anticipate buying and that's where a lot of the forecasting comes in this quantity of this item, this quantity but then it gets pre-approved basically and so

then we can very quickly get those items when we need them the if they're specialty items then obviously they're probably not included in that. so the term contract is very useful for the commonly used things that we expect to have to use and we can throw in anything we think we might need over the course of the year so that it's pre-approved through that contract. >> it's a competitively bid contract by line item. but then i think i want to give some kudos to the deputy director's office in phillip because they've been doing he's been doing a very good job of really trying to you know, look at the data not just have it but really look at it add it to better project what we're going to need. >> awesome. thank you. thank you. and also i'd like to add each employee has a badge so when you go to the tool room and get tools you need to put well. so we kind of use that data along with that other forecasting data to see what we really need for the year. that's why we've kind of closed

4 million every year kind of the year where we're trying to get better. >> thank you. workforce development. >> good morning commissioners. warren hill, workforce development manager for public works. >> what i'm going to do is give you a brief overview of our workforce development programs and as you'll see our workforce development programs break down into a three headed monster let's call it that first of which is our community based grants programs. so what those are we have cic who institutes our trash can pressure washing program. they also institute our sweeping program in chinatown. one of the things we did this year with that is add pressure washing to that contract as well. we also have our pitstop program. we have our tow clean program. what this initial foray into

our workforce development program is really designed to enhance individuals job skill set, teach them the social skills just coming to work on time, how you deal with conflict, how do you interact with the public because these are very front facing programs . second is our preparedness ship program. from there our hope is that individuals who participate in our community based programs will actually go into our pre apprenticeship program which is our 9916 corridors program. in addition, in our corridors we also have individuals in our buff urban forestry program. so what these individuals will do they'll be assigned a you know, 4 to 6 block area in which the responsible for manual street cleaning manual sweeping. and then last is our apprenticeship program. now our apprenticeship program is where individuals will hopefully transition from some of those pre apprenticeship opportunities to an apprenticeship program will they will actually complete on the job training and are assigned related supplemental instruction through their identified trade and then

graduate to be a journey level worker in their identified trade for our apprenticeship programs right now we have active 75 or 1 which is our apprenticeship general labor or semi three 7398 7399 are submit masons program which will get into shortly. we have our plumbers and those are the three we have active at this moment when covering our grantees i just covered c, y, c and some of the things that they actually cover for the 24 i'm sorry for the 2425 fiscal year we had two pit stop programs operating so we had 100 point family and mission hiring hall. they operated 30 citywide pit stops unfortunately due to budget reductions for 2526 we had to reduce down to 17. we had our chinatown sweeping program that was previously

operated by land ball. one of the things we had to do again with budget reductions that is now being operated by c y c friends of urban forestry provides tree watering services citywide tree planting outside looking at our whole sorry in addition to hunters point family operating our pitstop program they also operate our summer youth program. so in recent years we've had again budget reductions but we have serviced in excess of 120 youth throughout the city and they have actually, you know, had an entry experience into urban forestry, some of which have decided yes, i want to go on and actually engage into a career in, you know, urban horticulture. >> some decided they want to do something else. >> it's not exactly an easy job but it is a fun job that all the participants report on at the end of the year that they thoroughly enjoy.

>> one last program i apologize our t l cbd now that is t l cbd operates our tenderloin training program. they offer they provide manual street cleaning and sweeping as well for they identified tenderloin district. in addition we are expanding that actual grant where they're going to be doing maintenance on our big belly plans and we're hoping to expand that into pressure washing if we are fortunate enough to be awarded a grant in the upcoming months for 9916 program we had 166 public works 99/16 this is a conjunction program where we also work with hsc for their jobs now program. we had 78 individuals come from their jobs now program. now you may be thinking what's the difference between these two programs? and in all honesty there's not a big difference. the only difference is the public works employee the

public works 99 sixteen's work 40 hours per week. the hsc 99 sixteen's only able to work 32 hours per week. this is due to their maintaining their eligibility for their public assistance grants that they receive from hsc for 20 425 fiscal year. >> we were able to onboard two additional 70 5l1 general labor apprentices we on we had a total of 13 general labor apprentices working throughout the 24 2515 each of those 75 l ones were previously 99 sixteen's with public works and we just hired two additional plumbers apprentices previously we just started back on our we just started the plumbers apprenticeship program. we previously had two successful graduates both of which went on to obtain full time joining of employment with the city and county of san francisco one we've just onboarded two additional general i'm sorry plumber

apprentices and hopefully you know funding a permitted they will be employed by the city in county san francisco after they graduate currently we just closed the recruitment for our summit mason apprenticeship program we will be hiring two 7398 which is our entry level summit mason apprenticeship program and one 7399 which is the second half of the apprenticeship program. that apprenticeship program is a three year program total and what's the individual will complete 18 months either in the private sector or public sector depending on where they start. and then iand with that final 18 months in the public or private sector we currently well rather we anticipate hiring more 34 only for the four nines which is our arborist technician apprenticeship program. we anticipate that to be launched and announced

in january 26th and we will be hiring six individuals for that actual program. >> any questions? >> um i don't think i have anywhere else. i guess well first off thank you. >> i think it's a super important i think i mean even just as a new city commissioner being able to like go and see the work being done i mean it's opened my eyes tremendously and i think bringing people of our city into these programs i think just a huge part of making the city a better place. >> how how well do the current apprenticeship pieces line up with sort of the hardest to hire roles that the department has opened and how good i guess how consistent aside year over year? well, one of the things that we asked for with our community based programs we asked them to serve the hardest to employ population. we want them to work with individuals who have barriers to employment so that way as

they progressed through the actual program they're used to and accustomed to actual, you know, workplace experiences from there, you know, it's not a it's not necessarily a weeding out process. it's a it's a really a self-selection process. how determined are you to actually make it to that next step and that next level from there they go on to the 9916 program and then they again we'll still show us that same determination and determination and dedication to actually you know, their their individual success. one of the benefits that we have with workforce development that we're able to work very closely with these individuals so we're able to say hey, you know, you're messing up in this area. you need to come to work if you don't come to work this will happen you know negative adverse reaction. but if you continue on your path, you know this is a potential future for you. one of the things that we do do is that we work to connect these individuals to let's say just job enhancement skills. so what is it that you need to

do? how do you how do you de-escalate in this particular situation? you know, is do you have a resume? do you know how to interview you know, how can we work with you to actually get these skill sets that you're looking for? okay, great. and then once they've done that it prepares them to enter into the apprenticeship program when they're working in the apprenticeship program they're doing on the job training. i think the slot not i think the the lowest number of ojt hours is 3000 hours that an individual is able to complete to be considered eligible for graduation and then they complete their related supplemental instruction now that relate supplemental instruction is industry specific in which they learn the tools of their actual trade. so when they complete this program if they come to the city and county of san francisco or if they go to the private sector they are going to be a ready employee to really hit the ground running and their dedication that they've shown over the last two, three, 4 or 5 years depending on their actual apprenticeship it shows that they're ready.

you know, they have something tangible not just hey, i said i did it. they have a recognition from the state of california that says hey, you are a journey level. you know, individual in your particular trade. let's actually get you in there. so when it comes to filling those positions and particularly we'll see our airbus announcements for example, that's a very hard to feel classification. >> so when these individuals graduate from our arbus apprenticeship program they obtain their icsa certification which is an industry recognized with a license to operate if we want to say that they can take not just anywhere in the state but actually anywhere in the world that's amazing. >> thank you. >> yeah, it's a really great program. it's it's great that people wind up with so many skills that they didn't have before and can become super successful on their own as long as they come in like that's it's a really great program. >> i mean i know she won't say

it but our wonderful deputy director behind me you know she was an apprentice and i think she's i think it's safe to say she's the highest ranking apprentice in the city college campus cisco. >> so yeah, why thank you, warren. >> i also want to give accolades to a lot of the bureau of street environmental services. we have quite a few soup to's that have advance from 9916 days or an hour at the soup to level right before is in super. >> so we have quite a few people who have promoted up from the bottom and are currently working well it does as well because it's easier to hire from within on those hard to difficult higher positions and it also brings up the morale as well. so thank you for that. >> all right, community engagement is up. >> good morning commissioners ramsey's alvarez community engagement manager.

i'll be covering the work of the community engagement team which includes community programs and outreach and enforcement. together these units strengthen neighborhood pride and accountability. our shared goals is to make san francisco cleaner, greener and more connected through direct community participation and education. >> the community programs team organized 1282 volunteer events this fiscal year, reaching over 30,000 volunteers. our programs are the department's public facing heartbeat helping residents take ownership of their neighborhoods. >> we manage for cornerstone volunteer initiatives adopt a street graffiti, watch street parks and neighborhood beautification days combining to organize 47,000 volunteer hours. these volunteers collected 28,250 bags of trash and just over 1000 bags of green waste.

>> adopt a street remains our most popular and longest running program. >> we provide volunteers with cleanup supplies and coordinate pickup and disposal. this year we deepen partnerships with groups like manny's russian hill neighbors refuse refuse s.f. and several neighborhood associations making it easier for residents to schedule reoccurring cleanups and keep momentum going between official events. graffiti watch volunteers are trained and equipped to abate graffiti on city property. >> they make a visible difference by deterring repeated tagging on benches, utility boxes and trash cans, collaboration with tenderloin cbd, union square alliance and all other committees are ways we expanded this effort throughout the city the street park program empowers residents to transform unused or neglected public land into

community space gardens, stairways and other gathering spaces. we supply tools, safety support and greenway service. a highlight this year was the leak wilbur dean high school volunteer days were over 120 students worked across six parks reinforcing youth engagement and environmental stewardship. our monthly neighborhood beautification days continue to anchor our volunteer calendar each month we rotate through a different supervised burial district with multiple project sites. attendance averaged between 80 and 100 volunteers and march remains our most popular event coinciding with our arbor day fair. >> community development projects go beyond simple greening days. they involve murals, planters, rain gardens and other permanent improvements. our staff helps guide residents through designing, permitting and installation. with this year's milestone came the launch of the love our neighborhood permit in july of

2025 community program staff helped craft the legislation, coordinate the launch and continue refining workflows based on public feedback. we also led three annual signature events arbor day fair where we celebrated buff and the other external san francisco based organizations improving the urban canopy of the city the open house at the operations yard which hosted a record 547 students attendees this year were students explored city trades and our employee health care encouraging wellness outreach for public works staff. each event reinforces civic pride and internal engagement. the sleek this year we relaunched our school outreach program with three new anti litter zero waste presentations tailored by grade level. the pilot at visitation valley middle school reached over 300 students combining education hands on cleanups and personal

pledges to keep their campuses litter free while community programs build volunteerism outreach and enforcement or the one team ensures accountability through education and in code compliance. their mission is to balance community partnership and with enforcement when needed. >> each service zone is assigned an outreach coordinator who educates merchants, residents and property owners or cleanliness requirements from waste management to illegal dumping when education doesn't resolve the issue, cases escalate to enforcement. this personal face to face approach keeps our street clean and our messaging consistent throughout neighborhoods. we follow a progressive discipline model starting with outreach then a notice of violation and finally a citation when behavior doesn't change the focus is always education first enforcement

second. >> this year staffing dropped from six coordinators to three cutting output in half. recruitment remains a top priority to restore coverage to all service zones and maintain 24 seven response capability despite reduced staffing 311 requests have stabilized thanks to sustained outreach and collaboration with community benefit districts and local events like sunday streets where staff engage directly with the public on illegal dumping and volunteer offer opportunities. >> the one team actively works with recology s.f. environment and the department of public health and local benefits districts. together we address root causes of dumping overflowing bins, storage challenges and limited recycling options rather than just issuing citation as in fiscal year 2425 the team issued 517 citations totaling

121 $757 but only about $36,000 was collected to close that gap we're implementing a formal collection process with the tax assessor's office conducting annual audits of unpaid citations and targeting prior year cases to ensure consistent enforcement. >> looking ahead, our priorities include filling the vacancies to rebuild to full staffing, hosting the first ever street party summit to connect stewards citywide expanding partnerships for neighborhood beautification day refining the love our neighborhood permits workflow based on user feedback and completing a roll out of the flock illegal dumping cameras which will enhance investigation and deterrence ensure the community engagement division is connecting residents volunteers and businesses to the shared responsibility of maintaining a cleaner, safer san francisco while ensuring accountability and results through both

outreach and enforcement. and with that i'll take your questions. how are the the cameras with the illegal dumping working out ? i you know, that took a while for us to get started with those. >> but so this year was a learning experience in terms of our operations for those cameras. yeah, the cameras themselves are actually license plate readers. and so what we found was that we were kind of looking at illegal dumping after the fact and then looking through the cameras and trying to link one of the cards that the cameras caught with the dumping. so if you can think about it, it's almost like you see a pickup truck with a mattress and we visually see the mattress on the sidewalk and we're trying to make the connection. so in this next go around we're actually utilizing our live video cameras. >> so it's a stream of what's going on on a hotspot or a

block that's constantly getting illegal dumping. and we'll be able to monitor in real time that location and then tie the offending vehicle to the license plate with the license plate reader, if you will. it's a it's a stage two of this illegal dumping camera initiative. >> all right. cool. yeah, just kind of curious. i remember when we were first when this commission was first started and we were taking our tours around going to some of there was illegal dumping sites and how much every day was dumped there was just astonishing. >> yeah, we're really excited to utilize the technology and see what we can do with it. >> yeah. yeah. yeah. thank you for the update. mean what else do you see? community members when they're reporting all this illegal dumping and how are you keeping track on those? >> like i'm sorry i couldn't hear the question.

do you work closely with community members? >> just i remember at district ten there was one particular community member was just sending a lot of evidence of this dumping oh so how do you keep track and make sure that you know his complaint is been taken in and go check the site? because i know he has so many informations about who's doing this. >> how do you how are you working with this community members? yeah, a good number of the investigators that come to us come directly from whether it's a311 with information about who did the illegal dumping or the email to our team that includes pictures video. and so we utilize that as evidence and we frequently are able to tie folks with the information that is provided to us with holding someone accountable for any legal

action that they took. >> there's still the same as we will be doing it before. >> yeah, we do it day in and day out. we rely heavily on tips and information from the general public. i think deputy director jourdain wants to speak on this as well. >> we also create a service order and we reach out to the person is sending in the information as well so we track about service orders. so each call creates a service order whether it's our response to the or not. so we track all of the information so that's one how we track it and then we reach out to the person is calling in and get extra additional services to catch the person. a thing to think about is that you know, there's a phenomenon of folks who habitually illegally dump. and our records go back as far as 2009 in terms of tying illegal dumping to either a home or a business. so every address in san

francisco that has been found to be an offender we have a record of and we'll refer right back to you if we find them illegally dumping again. and of course as i said, it's a progressive discipline model so that $150 citation can quickly escalate to $1,000 if you keep doing the same thing. >> well, i'm glad we're seeing actions. >> now they don't pay the citations that consequences be happening because i think that's the only way to stop. yeah. and i think that that behavior that goes back to kind of what we're trying to do in terms of sending them to an a collections division and then inevitably serving them with a lean on the property that is connected to the illegal dumping. >> there's got to be some teeth to the citation, right? yeah. yeah. thank you. so you said i with the addresses. what if there's a new resident ,let's say? so back in 2012 they did

illegal dumping at this address. someone else moves in as i separate them. do they go back to that first tier or is it added on because it's the same address? >> i think that's a very good question. it's a little nuanced in there. every address or every situation has a different story to it. a lot of what we do has to do with communication and just kind of making a connection with whatever entity is illegally dumping. so let's say that it's a we're talking about a commercial property. if it's a restaurant from ten years ago that is no longer in business and it's a new restaurant and we can clearly see that these are restaurants that have no connection to it, then we usually will kind of start them fresh, let them know what their obligations are, what they should be doing. but if the history of the address indicates there's a

property owner and we spoke to them on this day and we told them this information will then that changes quite a bit because now we can look that even though it's a different business. you've got the same landlord and we did talk to them five years ago. >> and ultimately these fines are connected to the property, not necessarily the business. >> so in that case we would be issuing kind of the appropriate level of enforcement because these are folks that these are property owners. they should already know what their responsibilities are related to the trash disposal at their property. >> all right. >> cool. thanks. i was just curious. >> i guess my only other question and maybe just then like i mean i would echo the comments on obviously i think it's what yeah. you have to enforce things further. i'm glad to see you're pushing their on the fines schedule i guess. >> it seems to me like there's a class of dumping we're paying

the thousand dollar fine is going to be cheaper than handling it properly. and i maybe that's wrong. and so i guess i wonder like is that the right i don't know how the fee schedule the sat but is that right and is there a point at which it needs to escalate further? >> yeah. so you are right. but what i would say is that in addition to the fines that we have and what it sounds like is you're talking about dumping on a mass scale perhaps hazardous materials. >> i mean like i went on to our baby riot and people were dumping stuff that i you know, i take some stuff to the dumping. it's fairly expensive and i see the amount of stuff sitting on the side of the street and that's you know, thousands of tons of stuff whole different ballgame. >> yeah. so we also have other mechanisms to kind of go after bad actors, if you will. >> and one of them is working with the city city attorney's

office. they have a an arm that essentially goes after businesses that are illegal dumping, illegally dumping and we have worked with them in the past to explore bringing lawsuits against businesses that are using the right of way as their garbage can. and it's not something that we would do to say like a resident that leaves a trash bag out. but it is something where if we see let's say and this is a hypothetical here an auto shop that is in disposing of their oil and they're leaving it in a barrel somewhere in the bayview in an industrial park that doesn't get a lot of foot traffic in the leave it in the middle of the night. >> if we can conclusively tie that barrel to a business we will for sure explore more than just the fine and possibly some type of lawsuit on behalf of the city. that makes sense. and i guess jumping out of

enforcement and the bad part i just want to say i mean all the work community side i think bringing people together, the clean ups and the engagement like i think that's just super impressive. you and the team you do that has the guts. >> yeah. thank you. i think one of the mantras at public works is the we do a lot to keep the city clean but we can't do it alone. we need the people of san francisco to also kind of take responsibility and work with us. and so that's the fun part of what we do on our team. we try to engage with folks as much as possible. and i think what i'm really excited about is the educational component where we go out and we try to start them young. yeah, we really try to get them to buy in even when they're little to kind of raise the next generation of san franciscans that know how to or value keeping the streets clean . >> yeah. i also really like that you guys the people that report on you know the illegal dumping or

whatever that you guys are getting back to them because that makes them feel heard that makes them reach out more often and that just helps everyone and in the end and and you can even learn things that you didn't know about by reaching out to the community because they're actually seeing they're seeing what's going on when as it's happening. so i'm really happy that you guys are reaching back out when they file reports and stuff. >> that's really great. thank you. that means a lot. we have a team of communicators, right? and oftentimes we will call someone and the first thing out of their mouth is i can't believe someone from the city called me back which is the crux of what we do. >> but i understand you know, it's it's we we rely on folks to tell us how to do our job better and just kind of engaging with them is probably

the best thing that we can do in our roles for anything that we do. >> yeah, definitely. i agree. and i know that years ago just being a resident of the city i write reports of two three on one and i would her back and i'd be like oh well it did get picked up or oh no it's still there and stuff that just not knowing what the final result was or whatever. i, i it's helpful i that you guys respond back and stuff like that now and we went through and on first started i think you guys were just overrun with calls. so i that was something that i always thought would would be helpful is if there was some sort of feedback of yes, you reported this, we got it and it's taken care of now you know and that you're actually having conversations with them now is is awesome to me.

>> so yeah. anything? no, just one more thing direct the of short to i think your leadership really ticked this whole department so thank you to everyone all right thank you . next i also want to add my favorite is a stewards of the street and so is buying from the neighborhood. you got one person on the block who comes get bags from us pickers calls us to come pick it up and they really talk to the neighbors like hey could dump in. they can you clean up in front of your sidewalk? i mean they're really out there stewarding their blocks but we help them with the supplies and we come pick up the trash as well and we build community that way as well. so they do a lot of that work as well and that's my favorite part is they're really

educating and working with the residents not just the business owners but the residents as well. >> yeah. >> all right. now we're going to electric vehicle transition. >> oh yeah. but actually we do need to do public comment on the oh yeah the previous presentation memo . >> okay move on to item five. >> uh, so are we good with questions? >> i have a comment. all right. i must say in all the time that i've been here and how the creation of these various functions and groups are doing ,i am very impressed with these reports this time it's just success really good success and thank you all and the people that work for you in these different areas. i'm very impressed with these reports today and to see this stuff it's great.

>> thank you all very much for that work. yes, very much. all the work that you guys have always done but now that we're party and i feel like getting getting the results out there a little bit more for the public you know i feel like all of that is just good and really positive and all the hard work you guys do it because we're communicating with the public more. i think that it'll help with everyone's view and they'll they'll help dpw more and you know i, i just think all of it's just a positive build up. it's it's really great to see. all right. so hearing no further questions. mr. fuller, please open to public comment on this item. >> members of the public wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item for

the division wide functions performance report may line up against the wall to the audiences right and if you're commenting from outside the chamber press the raise your hand button in the webinar or staff three on your phone to be recognized. okay. and we do not have any commenters on this item already so hearing no further discussion secretary fuller please call the next item. item five is the flip if we update on the electric vehicle transition and heavy equipment operations supervisor john lee all is here to present and this is an informational item. good morning commissioners director short i'm going to talk about the transition citywide. i mean i'll talk about public works but it's a citywide

statewide item. it's i think there's one before that that yeah, yeah that's okay for some reason new york church not showing this blank slide was

basically just said that we work for the fleet is under at the deputy director's office for operations although we handle the fleet for the entire city. >> yeah i mean not the entire staff i'm sorry the entire public works all the divisions and all the vehicles that are domiciled in about seven locations. >> the fleet team consists of three people. my name is john lee. all i've been with the city for 22 years going on 23 real soon here chris brown and mike anderson are working in the fleet office on the fleet team right now. >> here's i don't want to bore you with everything but here's some of the stuff that we do. we have a thousand vehicles that were in charge of $9 million fuel maintenance budget

. we also handle the portable radios, mobile radios, all the vehicle repairs, jeeps and the dmv which all the employees are required to be in the dmv pin pool. and we also do the license plate requests. so when you're talking about illegal dumping all that goes through us also and there's some other stuff there but i'm not going to bore you with all that but okay, here's the regulations. these are carb and you're going to see some acronyms. there's the z e v which are zero emission vehicles. there's peas which are

partially zero emission vehicle and then we have ice vehicles which has nothing to do with immigration. their internal combustion engine vehicles which are the diesel gas c cng those type of vehicles. so starting january 1st 2024 we were required to buy 50 percent of our heavy duty vehicles in zero emission vehicles. >> that means anything over 8,500.80 pounds 500 pounds is a pickup truck. it's a equivalent of an f-250 or a three quarter ton pickup. so anything under that weight or required to buy an electric and that was with facto the clean air initiative from the board of supervisors and that's on the next slide. >> but starting january 2027

we'll have to purchase all electric vehicles 100%. so there are some exemptions for these vehicles but basically we're we can't use any of them so we're kind of locked into what the regulations are and even those exemptions are going to expire in about ten years so nobody will be able to use them in in the state. >> this is what i was referring to acta which was passed by the board of supervisors and we were supposed to buy a light duty vehicles starting in 2022 although that with covid it kind of got pushed back a little bit but we're now required to buy any car suv

light duty truck has to be electric during that year to turn into pushing learning and one of the things says give me a hard time that counts. you know if technology wasn't

while he's doing that, are there some vehicles that you guys use that they don't have electric vehicle placements for? are they working on well making electric vehicle versions of those? >> yes. and no. >> but the issue is it's mostly california. yes. and so manufacturers aren't going to there are a bunch of money at something for one state. yeah. and so if they can make it an electric you know they're making an effort but there are some for example a lot of street sweepers are that's what i was thinking they make him an electric however we've tested a lot of them and they don't make it up the hills in the city.

>> yeah and was that the next one? yes. all right. need to scroll with that. how am i going to get it next one of just okay up and down. okay think about that. >> so we have tested a lot of sweepers a lot and they won't make it up the hills or some of them will make it up the hill but they won't stop and start back again going up the hill. so if you if you take off if you go up the hill it makes it up. but if you stop halfway they won't take off and go back up the hill so but carb does not care they said we know san francisco has a lot of hills but you have flat streets too so you can use them on flat streets which makes no sense to me because we can't have a piece of equipment that can fail on the hill and then put people at risk. but that's what carb doesn't really care. >> yeah.

>> so with all these new vehicles we need to purchase this is i'm just going to give you a quick rundown this there's i believe there's 13 steps this is if we have a vehicle has already been out to bid that we have a term contract for we have pricing we have the vendor there's 13 steps to get that vehicle into service. >> it typically takes about a year and a half just for a regular car to get it into service from the time it's approved at the department level. so it goes through everything and actually shows up and that's for one that's on a contract is so if it's not on a contract like our sweepers or other vehicles which i'll show

you in a minute there are 19 steps to get that vehicle into service and it takes a long time. it can take anywhere from 3 to 5 years to actually get a piece of equipment from the time the department requested until it actually shows up here and gets in the service. how this is just you know, probably born with this stuff but all our our equipment that we're requesting now it was approved in august the end of august we need to have all our vehicle acquisition request to central shops by about a week from now two weeks if it's not on a city contract so that was a 19 step one. if it's the 13 step one then we

have till december 15th to get that to central shops so they can start working on it and we go forward and it still take about another year and a half after these dates pardon me it'll still take another year and a half after these dates or longer. >> wow i have we have about seven pieces of equipment that are coming in in the next couple of weeks that we ordered in 21, 2021. >> i'll this is just some more information about the purchasing process so we're working on this all year round. >> it's not like we get a break it's there's like right now we're getting ready to start the budget to work on the budget for the new equipment.

we're still trying to get the old equipment we got i mean the stuff that was already approved we're still trying to get that to central shops. we have stuff that came in four years ago or that we ordered four years ago coming in so it's just it's kind of a nonstop process. so this is one of our trucks that we need to replace. >> i know last time i was here i showed you a lot of nice equipment. this particular truck is 24 years old and has about 240,000 miles on it which in san francisco, miles, is like half a million miles. >> yeah, there's a couple more the same vintage truck and there's another reason i show you this we need to

replace these. so keep in mind we need half of these have to be electric are the fact that the electric like f-250 type models are are they up to par for what we need for our cisco? >> i'm sorry what lake if so if we need to replace like an f-250 is there an electric vehicle version that will still meet our needs? >> we're about francisco. i'm glad you asked that because we're about to get there before i forget it's not on the slide but i was notified friday afternoon that the ev workgroup mayor lurie is going to attend the next meeting which is this friday and it actually changed from team's meeting to in person down here at city hall so that might help a

little bit with some things going on so the question about the eve is so here's to eve evs right here and we have these in our fleet we have about 25 pickups similar to this in our fleet i'm sorry we're not at 25. we have about ten of these we have six, 5 or 6 on order and then the 25 number was total all electric vehicles we have so be cars and electric and then we have about 20 apc evs in the fleet. >> now these are the pickup trucks that are available in electric. so the first one up there you see the chevy. >> it's a chevy silverado that's a unibody truck the lower one the ford is not it's a frame it's a on frame truck. >> now if you go back and you see if you see these trucks,

these are built on a standard frame that's a dump that on there where the body separates and the dump that goes up to dump the debris. you can't do that with the chevy because it's unibody and and the ford both of these that's the only model you can get. >> it's like if you want one that's what it is if you see the bed on that ford it's about half the size of one of our regular trucks and they can't put an electric dump in on that . >> that's just an example of one of the electric cars on the term contract.

now the question that you just asked do they make an electric there's the electric now carb considers that a replacement for the f 350 which is the ones that we use. that's a bigger truck. it also weighs more and the weight rating is 19,500 pounds gross vehicle weight rating. once you get into that classification it's a different driver. so if we buy these trucks with a dump bed on them now is a teamster going to drive that truck and right around the labor to throw trash in it? >> it's there's a lot of issues that are going to come up that aren't going to be easy to answer that and you pretty much

have to answer these by january 1st, 2027. >> we have to answer those questions by then. yes, sir. >> yeah. well i, i don't know. i mean i think that's going to be something that's going to have to come up with the unions and you know the ammo years and stuff like that and who's going to drive drive what but i don't certain people can't drive a truck like that. you know what i mean? it's you put somebody in a big truck like that, those new trucks are going to look like those old ones. i just showed you a book. yeah. so it's i really don't know. >> i don't know what to say. okay. so all this fleet has to be electric by 2027 or you need some answer as well. >> so the hopefully it doesn't have to be 2027. the stuff we buy has to be 2027. i mean it has to be electric

the new stuff we buy so it's not like we have to get rid of everything we have but those trucks that i showed you that are 2425 years old replace those trucks by 20. >> yeah. and actually i think i go back i had yeah from frankly like pretty much all the trucks need to be replaced like they're all pretty old by now we have an aging fleet for sure yeah yeah i think the challenge is that as john was was pointing out put that back on if we go to some of the larger trucks we could potentially require two people to do what the job that one person is currently doing or we would potentially have smaller trucks which means they fill up more quickly. so there are there are challenges that we will have to work through as a city. >> this is not unique to public

works. >> so as as john mentioned, you know, there's a citywide every working group and i think those those types of questions in terms of whether there are labor agreement negotiations that may have to occur, you know, that will really be handled at the citywide level. >> but there are very practical concerns in the short term and it's a it's almost creating a disincentive to replace vehicles that we want to replace because we don't have a good electric vehicle alternative for them. >> well, the other issue is also budgets, right? like yeah, we're not in expensive so but even the budget so let me just go back to the budget but here this is citywide fleet right here. this isn't just public works. so if you look at the age of the vehicles, there's 94 vehicles that are 41 years are older 204 31 to 40 years, 1321

to 30. it's an old old fleet. most cities are running 7 to 10 years. that's what their fleets are not 40, 30, 2015 we do have some really impressive tractors that are like still go in at age 30. >> so i'm just saying back in the day they made some good equipment. >> yeah they they made good equipment and actually i talked to some of the suppliers that we have and they've asked me to send them pictures of the stuff that we have because i can't believe it's still in service. they want to use it for their advertising and i'm not joking that's true but even someone mentioned budget budget right now we have seven vehicles for essex that were budgeted but we can't buy them all because we don't have any credits to buy them because you have to buy 50% electric 50% ice engine and we can't get a waiver

because the car looks at the city as a whole. so dpw doesn't have any credits. we've we earn and burn them right we that other departments have credits so let's just say and i don't know that they do but the airport has five credits or pac has five credits right but they're not buying something right now so i'm standing here going well wait a minute, i can i can buy it. and they're like we're keeping our credits. and carb says well san francisco you have credits. what do you mean you don't need it? we're not giving you a waiver user credits. so so it's so what other solutions then is that the meeting with mayor in person this upcoming meetings is that we well i've talked to the director of gsa fli don jones and i said that in my opinion somebody should take charge of the credits and if you don't have if you can't purchase a

vehicle right now, let another department use those credits. >> but you know we have enterprise departments, we have general fund departments and there are a lot of moving parts. so it's it's interesting. >> how does one earn credits you get a credit for every electric vehicle you buy. so we're buying five electric trucks right now and those are going to be five credits for those seven we have seven approved for ice engines. >> those five electrics are going to be for five ice and then we'll have two more that we can't purchase right now. we'd have to buy something electric which i showed you our electric alternatives so yeah and i noticed that you were talking about and showed the crew cabs on those trucks and how small the boxes are certainly not good for our purposes i would think.

>> no, not really. this picture of this extended cab i guess it is allows for a larger box. >> well, are you talking you're talking about the older truck i was shown in blue when you just showed here. >> yeah. the blue line. which one? this this little one here. yeah, but well that one's got a small bed too. that's a ford ranger and that's got about a six foot it doesn't have a really large box. >> what we typically need for litter patrol the workhorses of ss are a full size pickup with an eight foot bed >> and a foot dump bed and and that would be just a standard two person cab. >> it can be standard cab, it could be an extended cab or it can be a crew cab. >> so the standard cabs are probably better because they're not as long there's some they

use crew cabs you see a lot more crew cabs when they had larger crews going out and i don't know it's going to get back to that. but the longer the truck the more chance of accidents happening. so we're better off with a smaller cab and eight foot bed i don't know do they make to standard cab anymore or is it all yeah, they still make a standard cab. >> yeah and we're not not an electric cars well i don't know how soon that will get here is that i mean that's the possibility i'm just throwing this out like recology might step in and help department of public works with some of the heavier picking up probably not just asking because you know the very short term solution. >> well i mean i think that i mean short term when they recology always picks it already picks up the large bulky items our trucks are picking up the you know, more stuff boxes, bags and stuff on

the street. that's what the laborers are picking up. we do have and we have plenty of garbage truck. we have actually three brand new ones coming in in the next couple of weeks. so we have plenty of garbage trucks and if we have drivers but we have trucks on the bigger side. all this stuff i said is from 4 or 5 years ago so we didn't have to worry about the car mandate at that time. it's just going forward but we have to deal with it. >> the catch 22 you have a solution then you have a different sort of challenge know this latest goes around yeah one strategy we are employing with with those new garbage trucks is that crews will be able to dump their load in the field rather than going all the way to the dump. and so that's that's been a strategy we've been working towards. so as we get those new trucks

we'll have made up points so that even though you may have a smaller bed at least you won't have to go as far to dump your truck and then with the weight of the vehicle itself is that means you have to pick up less so it's not too heavy for the drivers is that also going to be a challenge? >> i'm unsure for which vehicles but for the vehicles you were talking about the weight. oh, the capacity, yeah. yeah. well they have a smaller bed so they're not going to be able to pick up that capacity is don't that's kind of by nature it's going to not even allow it to happen. >> yeah so then it's small more trips yeah more trips more time added into the workload so i like meeting up with the dump trucks like that that's that's a good solution for now it also keeps a laborers in the driver's seat or yeah or

basically and just have to fix these trucks which we've been doing and i mean that truck that you saw with that's 24 years old you're probably going to see it at 34 years old. >> god bless the mechanics, right? yeah. >> yeah. they do a good job keeping them on the road. one of the question on the other side of this how difficult or have you been giving any i'm sure your for the pump the refueled or the recharge or whatever stations well that's that's a whole nother that's a whole another problem we're already maxed out on our infrastructure at least in the operations yard and we the city just signed a and i'm not sure if it's a pilot program or just a short term contract with a company called blue dot and we can use their network of chargers to charge our trucks which is nice that we can do that but someone

who's driving an ev is going to have to go stop and pull over and charge for i guess they can do it on their lunch break or coffee break or something but it's kind of hard to tell someone to go to the gas station, take your lunch and charge the car. >> yeah, yeah that's kind of working while you're taking your lunch which is not okay with the state of california labor laws but also also use some blue dot. um, what i found out because i'm one of the electric vehicles so almost the cost of going to get gas so yeah we're not saving anything. >> we don't have the infrastructure and the blue dot doesn't have as many vehicles as we have. >> so if you can imagine you know, 400 vehicles a day trying to charge it the ten locations that have 4 or 5 spots not going to work. so we got to figure out something the bigger conversation with the mayor and us just trying to figure out

what we need and that doesn't include backhoes, ten wheelers, front end loaders, cement mixers. so the equipment that we're just looking and no one has them so are they making well bucket loaders so outside of the state they are making them but they want the money first and that's not to how the city of san francisco works. you have to get a purchase order and you see how long the process is in other cities outside of california they give the company the money and they will build the truck. we don't work like that so we're looking into options. well, definitely good luck with all this. i'm not envious of trying to figure all this out. >> one of the things about the heavy equipment is it takes an enormous amount of energy to recharge them too. when you're taking that huge piece of equipment. >> it's not a, you know, chevy bolt or a little pickup.

>> those things have enormous batteries and takes a lot of power to recharge them. so even if you know, you could buy them, where are we going to charge them all? yeah, i guess my three key questions we touched on and you're just looking at the what 8000 plus vehicles across the city. you know, maybe they don't need to be charged during the day but yeah, you don't have a place to plug in 8000 vehicles overnight so it seems like a problem. i guess the second question and maybe just on the purchasing process like it seems too long maybe my feedback which obviously yeah, i agree how much i mean i guess i didn't fully understand the breakdown of all the steps but like how much of that is self-inflicted pain versus state right? >> like i couldn't tell how many none of it's none of it's state regulation. >> it's all self-inflicted. yeah and there's actually a few

more steps of what's in there. >> there's you can probably add 2 or 3 steps to both of those processes. >> how much of that fully within public works domain versus other parts it's it's it's the city that that's all the city requirement it's not you know it's not us that is doing it it is there somebody working on that problem because that doesn't seem ideal for you or anyone else? >> i would say yes. i think that you know, there are certainly efforts to streamline as many processes as we can within the city. >> you know, one of the challenges i just do want to highlight is that part of the reason why that process is so long but we all agree it's too long and it's not all the reason is that these these vehicles are specifically sparked by the city so they're building them once we finally get the purchase order to them . >> and so what we need to streamline as much as we can is

reducing the amount of time to get that purchase order. but unless we're buying the ones that are on these term contracts they're building a lot of these like basically like bespoke vehicles for us because we have special specifications for them so that is partly why it takes so long once we've got the purchase order then before we actually take delivery of the equipment. >> got it. and then i guess my third question, you know, generally favorable of evs and i have one myself but um uh there's obviously a lot in flux like nationally, right? i think there was a bigger push a year ago to have more evs and seem like car companies were more committed. it seems like a lot of things have pulled out of that in the last little while. you've got california holding strong like i guess is there uh, i mean there's less for this specific commission but like it seems like you know a little bit of i guess. question what are all the other cities in california doing because inevitably this is also

their problem maybe on a different time horizon but eventually and then i guess is how or maybe the overall state of evs across the country and manufacturer plans which seem to be shifting away from evs in general how is that impacting what we do or is it a little bit of like we need to figure that out as a city and we're also trying to fathom other ideas like hydrogen fuel um, we did a walk we went across the bay and looked at their hydrogen feel that sam trims that we see and you see ac dc transit has a whole yard with that capacity but they started 15 years ago fully way ahead of the game. yeah i mean like uh it's amazing they they've had a lot of trial and error to get where they are today so they do have electric but they also have hydrogen fuel which would be

another option for us to to create a hydrogen fuel station at the yard and then deal with that but then you know again the capacity and the vehicles that we need which vehicles would take hydrogen and other fuel options beside gasoline. so we're fans i mean other ideas as well. um, but uh we're way behind and so the homework we have to do and to figure it out is a long way from now actually. so we're just putting the band aid on all the vehicles and taking good care of our gas vehicles that we have right now. and just as an example, i wanted to say the vehicle that i just which is up there which was the silverado it runs five days without charging but it takes two days to charge. >> so you know, we can't have vehicles like that sitting for two days. and the problem with the bigger

vehicles are they can't charge overnight and it think is good because we have a 24 hours service so multiple people using their vehicle three times a day. so it would do us no good. we we also phantom okay. maybe we just changed the battery wheel the batteries are super heavy and that's not gonna work as well. so it's all a work in progress and we're trying to figure it out. >> yes. the best option cost effectively and meets our financial criterias as well. so i mean so much of this just seems ultimately like it's tied in to what the city as a whole has to do and well, california is kind of on an island with this. yeah. carved is set the standard and that's the way it is. i mean if you go to other states there's not a prius for every ford pickup and there's not a tesla for every you know, ford pickup. >> you see a whole different dynamic in in vehicles.

so i'll give you an example honda honda company that makes generators they stop selling in california they just say that they make the best generator around and they just decided to stop doing business in california because of carbon the regulations they said well we'll sell there 49 other states and the rest of the world but we're not doing business with california anymore and some of the other manufacturers are like yeah, they have a big market but we have 49 other states so they're not really investing as heavily in the ev market as they might have been. i also feel that at some point in all of this the batteries are going to become a problem, the batteries are going to be a problem. >> what i see actually happening is the evs have a

lower initial maintenance cost and what i could see happening is when you get a bunch of evs and then the maintenance budgets are going to get cut and then you're not going to have money to replace the battery later. and i'll give you an example we bought smart cars ten years ago and the cars were roughly $22,000. if we had the battery go out on the smart car and it's $27,000 to replace a battery on that particular car. needless to say we don't have that car anymore but it's going to be and i talked to gsa fleet director about this too that if the city decides to start pulling money oh, you guys don't need this maintenance budget anymore. >> there needs to be a battery fund somewhere where when you have all these cars that all of a sudden can't run and you need $1 million for batteries for all these departments, you know there's got to be some or we're just going to get rid of the

cars because if we go back to that truck that's 24 years old and has 200,000 miles on it, that's not going to be the electric car because it's ten years and it's going to need a battery. who knows how much it's just going to be a whole new whole new game. >> oh yes. this is going to be an ongoing conversation. >> okay. yeah. >> hopefully it gets better. yeah. can't get worse. we're there to you all. >> thank you. yeah. yeah. it gets better if everyone work collectively right within the office and all the departments so we just have to make sure that yeah, we're working on i mean we're all every department if you talk to any of the fleet managers we all have the same yeah the same issues. i mean i think that the city basically needs to my opinion by a lot somewhere and electrify one large lot and give each department so many spaces where we can go take our cars and charge them

at that location because trying to electrify 40 spots or 30 or 20 or even two is going to take a long time when you can do one right by our yard we have the waymo yard they're charging i don't know 100 cars over there. >> they got that place up and running pretty quick. well, i remember you mentioned this the last meeting as well so i hope it becomes a reality. >> it'd be nice. yeah. good luck with everything. yeah and yes, um, i don't remember iraq right now. >> uh, so do we have any other questions? >> so so then, um, i guess we need to open this to public comment. >> members of the public wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item five the fleet update on the

electric vehicle transition you may line up against the wall to the audience's right and if your commenting from outside the chamber press the raise your hand button in the webinar or start three on your phone to be recognized. okay and we do not have any callers on this item so that concludes public comment. >> all right. so no further discussion. >> so secretary fuller, please call the next item. >> item six is the sanitation and streets commission in your statement of purpose and annual report and i will present this item it is an action item and per the san francisco charter section 4.102 and 4.123 each commission must adopt a statement of purpose and approve an annual report of its activities for transmittal to the mayor and the board of

supervisors. >> the statement of purpose has not changed since it was adopted in 2024 by this by this commission and is included in that item. the annual report includes information on membership of the commission meeting information and accomplishments during the reporting period of july 1st, 2024 through to june 30th 2025 and a plan for the current repair reporting period. so this report has been posted publicly distributed to commissioners ahead of this meeting and before any motion is made to adopt a statement of purpose and in your report i'm happy to take any questions or comments. >> does any commissioners have any questions? no. >> all right. do i hear a motion to approve sanitation and streets commission statement of purpose and annual report?

and do i have a second? i'm just assuming again i read uh, given the motion we will now hear public comments. secretary fuller please open public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item six the motion to adopt the sanitation and streets commission statement of purpose and annual report you may line up against the wall to the audience's right and if you're commenting from outside the chamber press raise your hand button in the webinar or start three on your phone and we do not have any commenters in person or via webex so that concludes public comment. >> all right. so is there any debate on this motion? no. all right. so then hearing no further debate, all in favor of

approving the sanitation and streets commission annual statement of purpose and annual report say yes, yes, yes. >> all right. and so the motion passes. >> please call the next item. item seven is the sanitation and streets commission 2026 calendar of regular meetings. and i will also present this calendar of meetings. okay. and as s.f. gov tv could bring up the clerk pc for visual oh, there you go. >> yeah, let's see. so and just in case i didn't see it before this is an action item the proposed calendar of of meetings represents a continuation of our current calendar meeting quarterly on

the third monday of the month at 10 a.m. in city hall room for 16. the one exception is the meeting held jointly with the public works commission on the fourth thursday of january to hear the department's budget proposal most likely january 22nd and the commission may schedule additional meetings but must meet quarterly per the charter and before a motion is made to adopt the proposed meeting calendar. i'm happy to take any questions or comments. >> all right. any questions? comments. all right then see do i hear a motion to approve the sanitation streets commission 26 calendar for regular meetings motion to approve. all right. and do i hear a second? second. all right. and so given the motion we will now hear public comment. secretary fuller, please open

public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item seven at the end the motion to approve the sanitation and streets commission 2026 calendar of regular meetings you may line up against the wall to the audience is left and if you're commenting from outside the chamber press the raise your hand button in the webinar or star three on your phone. okay and we do not have any public commenters on this motion. >> all right. and doesn't look like we have any debate so hearing no further debate or discussion. all in favor of approving the sanitation and and streets commission tex calendar of regular meetings. yes. yes. all right. and the motion passes and secretary fowler, please

call the next item item eight is the sanitation and streets commission election of officers . i will present this item and it is an action item and per the commission's rules of order annually we hold an election for both the chair and vice chair to preside and to preside over meetings and the direct business of the commission that's the role of the chair and the vice chair to take on the chair's role when necessary such as during absences we will accept nominations for the chair and then the vice chair if there are multiple nominations for each position will hold a separate vote for each nominee until one receives at least three votes and if we only have one nominee per position we can have a single vote to elect both of the officers. either way after nominations are made we will take public comment then hold the vote for

the officer positions. i'm sure that was confusing but but should be fairly simple in execution the commissioners have any questions about the process? >> no. all right. and then so we don't have any questions. do i hear a nomination for chair? i would like to nominate commissioner for a chair. all right. and are there any other nominations for chair? great. do i hear a nomination for vice chair? i, i would like to nominate commissioner harrison for vice chair. are there any other nominations for vice chair?

no. all right. so given their nomination we will now hear public comment. secretary fuller, please open public comment. >> members of the public who wish to make three minutes of comment in person on the nomination of commissioner parmenter as chair and commissioner harrison as vice chair you may line up against the wall to the audience is right and if you're commenting from outside the chamber once again press the raise your hand button the webinar or star three on your phone to be recognized. okay and we do not have any public commenters on the nominations. >> all right. so given that we have one nominee for each officer position, we can vote on them together all in favor of electing commissioner parmenter as chair and commissioner

harrison as vice chair say yes. >> yes, yes, yes. okay. >> that would mean commissioner parmenter would be chair so my position and harrison would be vice chair continuing do i have to say yes or no? >> yeah right now. >> oh okay. yeah yeah we're voting on it now. okay. um so yes sir. >> no, no. all right. uh, so the nominees have been selected but you sorry. >> this is where i'm getting confused. hang on just a second. >> i think you're in the right spot. okay. yeah. commissioner parmenter will be our chair and commissioner harrison will be our vice chair beginning january 20th, 26.

skip to item nine and okay. >> uh, let's see just on the next page i think we're just 13, remember? >> oh, there we go. >> wait, you said 13 page 13 oh, yeah, yeah. >> on the same page. >> so i guess secretary fuller please call the next item. item nine is new business initiated by commissioners and this is an opportunity for commissioners to make announcements and raise topics to be added to future commission agendas and this is an informational item. >> all right. any any new business so hearing no oh, go ahead. >> maybe one ask for directors

or i would love to just get an update back on the side of things given today's conversation, it seems like upcoming meetings probably will reveal much but it might just be helpful in a future meeting to circle back and understand where we are sure we can absolutely do that for you maybe that'll probably have to wait until the april 1st because of the january ones. the joint one with public works. yeah yeah that's that. that'll be a good give you guys a lot of time to really give us updates. >> all right. any others? no. all right. so hearing no further business . >> new business. mr. fuller, please open to public comment. members of the public wish to make three minutes of comment in person on item nine new business you once again we'll line up against the wall to the audience.

>> that's right. and if you're commenting from outside the chamber press raise your hand in the webinar or star three on your phone and we do not have any public commenters. all right. so if there is any further discussion i think we're all good. secretary fuller, please call the next item. >> so item ten is general public comment continued from item one if necessary and it was not necessary to continue this. >> all right. so secretary fuller, is there any further business? >> there is no further business on today's agenda. >> all right. this commission will meet again in january i believe january 22nd for the joint budget hearing with public works commission. this will likely this will likely happen on january 22nd at 11 a.m. hearing no objections i adjourn this

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>> long it was in fashion, o'shaughnessy water system has been sustainable. in addition to providing water for the bay area, it also generates clean hydroelectric power to run city buildings and services. and more recently, some san francisco homes and businesses. >> satellite electricity is greenhouse gas free, so we see a tremendous benefit from that. we really are proud of the fact that, we've put our water to work. >> even with the system as well coon received as hetch hetchy, climate change has made the supply of water from the sierra vulnerable. and requires new

thinking about where and how we use water. >> we have five hundred million gallons a day of wastewater being dumped out into san francisco bay and the ocean from the bay area alone. and that water could be recycled and should be recycled for reuse through out the bay area. >> we're looking at taking wastewater and reading it to drink watering standards. we're also looking at our generation and looking at onsite water reuse looking at the technology and strategies we have available to us today. >> the very first recycling plant in the state of california for landscape irrigation was built in san francisco. we've just developed a new recycled water plant in the ocean side wastewater facility for irrigation purposes in golden gate park, lincoln park and the panhandle. >> a century ago, san francisco built a dam to create bunched

znswer of fresh water to ensure the future and ensure the taps will flow for future generations, it will take as much vision when it reflects a fundamental change about how we think about water. >> i think we recognize there's going to be change in the future. so we're going to have to have the flexibility and the creativity to deal with that future as it's presented to us, it's a matter of how to see it and say, okay, let's make wise use of everything we have. >> this o'shaughnessy centennial moment is made possibbbbbbbbbbbb >> in august 2019 construction began on the new facility at 1995 evans avenue in bayview. it will house motorcycle police and department of forensic

services division. both sfpd groups are in two buildings that need to be vacated. they will join the new $183 million facility in late 2021. >> elements of the cfi and the traffic company are housed at the hall of justice, which has been determined to be seismically unfit. it is slated for demolition. in addition to that the forensic services crime lab is also slated for demolition. it was time and made sense to put these elements currently spread in different parts of the city together into a new facility. >> the project is located in the bayview area, in the area near estes creek. when san francisco was first formed and the streetcars were built back it was part of the bay.

we had to move the building as close to the edge as possible on bedrock and solid elements piles down to make sure it was secure. >> it will be approximately 100,000 square feet, that includes 8,000 square feet for traffic company parking garage. >> the reason we needed too new building, this is inadequate for the current staffing needs and also our motor department. the officers need more room, secured parking. so the csi unit location is at the hall of justice, and the crime laboratory is located at building 60 sixty old hunters point shipyard. >> not co-located doesn't allow for easy exchange of information to occur. >> traffic division was started in 1909.

they were motor officers. they used sidecars. officers who road by themselves without the sidecar were called solo. that is a common term for the motorcycle officers. we have 45 officers assigned to the motorcycles. all parking at the new facility will be in one location. the current locker room with shared with other officers. it is not assigned to just traffic companies. there are two showers downstairs and up. both are gym and shop weres are old. it needs constant maintenance. >> forensic services provides five major types of testing. we develop fingerprints on substances and comparisons. there are firearms identification to deal with projectiles, bullets or

cartridge casings from shootings. dna is looking at a whole an rare of evidence from -- array of evidence from dna to sexual assault to homicide. we are also in the business of doing breath allyzer analysis for dui cases. we are resurrecting the gunshot residue testing to look for the presence of gunshot residue. lifespan is 50 years. >> it has been raised up high enough that if the bay starts to rise that building will operate. the facility is versus sustainable. if the lead gold highest. the lighting is led. gives them good lights and reduces energy use way down.

water throughout the project we have low water use facilities. gardens outside, same thing, low water use for that. other things we have are green roofs on the project. we have studies to make sure we have maximum daylight to bring it into the building. >> the new facility will not be open to the public. there will be a lobby. there will be a deconstruction motorcycle and have parts around. >> the dna labs will have a vestibule before you go to the space you are making sure the air is clean, people are coming in and you are not contaminating anything in the labs. >> test firing in the building you are generating lead and chemicals. we want to quickly remove that from the individuals who are working in that environment and ensure what we put in the air is

not toxic. there are scrubbers in the air to ensure any air coming out is also at the cleanest standards. >> you will see that kind of at the site. it has three buildings on the site. one is for the motorcycle parking, main building and back behind is a smaller building for evidence vehicles. there is a crime, crime scene. they are put into the secure facility that locks the cars down while they are examined. >> they could be vehicles involved in the shooting. there might be projectiles lodged in the vehicle, cartridge casings inside the vehicle, it could be a vehicle where a aggravated sexual occurred and there might be biological evidence, fingerprints, recovered merchandise from a potential robbery or other things. >> the greatest challenge on the project is meeting the scope

requirements of the project given the superheated construction market we have been facing. i am proud to say we are delivering a project where we are on budget. >> the front plaza on the corner will be inviting to the public. something that gives back to the public. the building sits off the edge. it helps it be protected. >> what we are looking for is an updated building, with facilities to meet our unit's needs. >> working with the san francisco police department is an honor and privilege. i am looking forward to seeing their faces as the police officers move to the new facility. >> it is a welcome change, a new surrounding that is free from all of the challenges that we face with being remote, and then the ability to offer new expanded services to the city

and police department investigations unit. i can't wait until fall of 2021 when the building is finally ready to go and be occupied and the people can get into the facility to serve them and serve the community. >> you're watching san

francisco live with chris manner. >> today's s f f is - >> hi, i'm chris you're watching or imagining the city we have ivar satero director of sfo welcome to the show. >> go to the with you. >> thank you nice to see let's talk about how the airport as and the number of depreciations you're serving. >> yeah. it is really exciting we consult strong out the crisis and full swings with in carriers and poetry's and great dedications have a lot more to the mix and we have others we

had talked about wonderful depreciations and people are loving that we're at with an hundred and 10 percent the precovid international position without the full recovery so we'll anticipating china but the recovery is excited to see how busy the temperance are those days. >> had renovation or expansion plans are currently underway? >> great. a lot of exciting programs we suspected some that have the work because of crescent trail he now we're back in full spring or swing and finished the harvey milk terminal one and talk about setting a standard in passengers traveling and it exceeded any exceptions to finishing harvey milk terminal one and now knowledge on another terminal that's one of the last terminals to receive the 70 patch focuses

on the passengers expense and west torrential has will kicked off and now taking the next four and a half years to 34re89 34re9 and have a lot of the investment structure and part of on $11 billion investment over the 5 years to seven years and $8 billion and $3 billion in the extra and excite to implement a new wastewater treatment plants and we'll be able to reuse the water at ivar satero director of sfo and next the question is san francisco san francisco international airport is well common for the opportunity. >> could you debilitate on those a little bit. >> we set aggregate goals we set the zero goal this is the zero net energy greenhouse gas emissions and zero water and we have had that as one of the

permit values for over a decade and exciting to see our entering use is down by 4, 3, 2 , 1 percent if 2012 our water use is detain 20 percent and is greenhouse gas emissions is down thirty percent and that is about the investment we made and the quality of facilities we build and reduces the entering consumption and heating and cooling those things when we make those investments what is that commissioner vietor that benefits the environment when we design and plan the buildings is really exciting and wonderful to see little success we're having. >> i think about the future and skuntd fuel and we building that since 2018 to show the leadership in the advancement of constitutional aviation and 70 will be the airport for the fuel

of any airport in the world this year and next year and so that's a huge workforce at 70 but undoubtedly has an impact over the regional xhivengz and just facts as you, you know, we are the latter jock center in san mateo county we have 40 thousand people at 70 and we contribute about 40 board of appeals to the regional economy about one hundred and fifty thousand job is rely on the successful operations of our airport it is really a tremendous interest rate to our economy and about the operations and construction programs and you'll talk about the investment we've been investing in the facilities for so many years i've been here 3 decades and under construction that whole time almost and the job addition for the contradiction program is meaningful for well paying

trades work and intifrmz has on a priority and this year with our interns yesterday over one hundred interims supporting the team we're a perspective of the support we get the the labor that is available to 70. >> that's great. >> so finally what advancements will be for the passenger experience and operations, you, know, many people for those of you who don't know the history of this is a long alter 70 and in father 1959 we had jets and the disruption that has happened are particularly with uber and lyft wiper the first airport to permit their precautions $50 billion and with the taernlz with the technologies like automatic. >> what an experienced for

people going to the check lines and our dependant cure system the bag system the lath technology and the first in the u.s. so have an independent carrier system and 0 now you hinge with the notification it is really tremendous particle as we develop a new facility but, you know, for us too about our operation and unfor the future there is exciting new development happening we have recently implemented a ground based agree mansion system that is technology improves the arrive rate of airport and allows for which the development of arrivals that benefit community by higher elevations and offsetting over the water we invested in that that noise and quality of life but also, you know, for the delays details delays are a community by the

people when cooler weather and traffic comes in after midnight we're investing in our familiarity and investing in the operations we have our airport integrated operation system underway with technologies to give us much better especially realtime awareness and auto operations and embarcadero to adjust our operations to address congestion, you know, roadside congestion and checkpoint congestions gives us much better awareness and other things we can talk about that are existing wall but taxis an noopgs 234506gs we or working with the industry on this that might look in the 70 and preparing for the future of air taxis and one of our big initiative to engage the broader region in the

developments we have to have policies that address the air taxis innovation we are conducting with berkley transportation center and engaging the industry and engaging decision makers and the region in helping to develop policies will give us a framework for addressing the air taxis that's a step for the next several years. thank you. ivar satero director of sfo for sharing the information for san francisco international airport we appreciate the time you've given us and thank you. >> we'll be back with another one i'm chris thank you for

re two one welcome to the small business commission meeting on october 27th 2025. the meeting is being called to order at 4:37 p.m.. this meeting is being held in person in city hall room 400 and broadcast live on s.f. gov tv. the small business commission thinks media services and s.f. gov tv for televising the meeting which can be viewed on s.f. gov tv two or live streamed at s.f. gov tv.org. we welcome general public comment at the end of the